Andretti's F1 Rejection: What Do Sim Racers Think?

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Did Formula One Management make the right call in rejecting Andretti and Cadillac?


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In what turned out to be the second-most spectacular news regarding Formula One in the span of 24 hours after Lewis Hamilton's apparent move to Ferrari in 2025, it has emerged that the Andretti bid to field an F1 team in 2025 has been rejected for good. An unpopular decision, it seems - what does the RaceDepartment community think?

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One of the biggest names in racing, backing by an automotive giant in General Motors - Michael Andretti's bid to join F1 seemed extremely promising. However, the Andretti-Cadillac project almost immediately faced adversity.

It took the established F1 world what seemed like two seconds to adopt a very unwelcoming stance towards the potential new team. 22 cars would be too many and dangerous. Another team would dilute the championship. Despite this, Andretti and GM pressed on and hoped to field their own team in 2025.

While the FIA itself approved the bid of the potential new US team, Formula One Management did not. FOM takes care of the commercial side of F1 - and this hurdle could not be cleared by Andretti. The key part of the rejection statement read as follows:

"The most significant way in which a new entrant would bring value is by being competitive. We do not believe that the applicant would be a competitive participant. The need for any new team to take a compulsory power unit supply, potentially over a period of several seasons, would be damaging to the prestige and standing of the Championship."

Sim racers who hoped to have Andretti cars on the virtual grid in the official F1 game series can still do so, though. Thanks to the efforts of the RD community, multiple MyTeam packs can be found in the download section for F1 23. Additionally, the 2026 Overhaul Mod by @ManifoldWasHere also includes an Andretti entry.

Andretti & Cadillac Strongly Disagree​

Of course, Andretti and Cadillac were quick to issue a statement of their own, expressing their strong disagreement with the assessment of FOM. In general, the racing community looks to be on Andretti's side, criticizing F1's country club attitude in the matter.

The rejection does seem weird, too. In recent years, F1 has finally managed what it never really could before - gain traction in the USA. So much so, in fact, that there are now three US races on the calendar. A true US team could certainly have helped drawing in even more fans, especially with the Andretti name attached.

Of course, Haas is technically an American team as well, but they also have a UK base and cooperation with Ferrari, giving the team a more European flair as a result. One could also argue that Haas is also not doing much in terms of competitiveness to add to F1's value...


The Andrettis have quite some F1 history as well, going back to the 1960s. In fact, legendary Mario Andretti made his F1 debut in 1968, and ten years later, he became the World Champion with Lotus. Mario also raced for Ferrari, March, Parnelli Jones Racing, Alfa Romeo and Williams in F1.

His son Michael did not enjoy a successful F1 career, joining McLaren in 1993 after having been one of the top dogs in the IndyCar series for years at that point. He could not get comfortable in F1, though, and parted ways with the team after the Italian Grand Prix.

New Bid in 2028?​

Nevertheless, the Andrettis are a household name in the US and many other countries to this day. The family also raced in sports cars, with Mario scoring a class win in the 1995 24 Hours of Le Mans, NASCAR and, of course, IndyCar. In 1969, Mario won the Indianapolis 500 - and despite both son Michael and grandson Marco getting extremely close to repeating the feat since, it remains the only Andretti win at the Brickyard as of early 2024.

Despite this and Michael operating an internationally-renowned racing team in IndyCar, Formula E and numerous other series, the Andretti name will not return to F1. At least not until 2028 - according to the FOM statement, the doors would be open for a new application then.

We want to know: Do you agree with the FOM decision? Are you on Andretti's side in this case? And what are your reasons? Let us know your opinion in the poll above and your reasons in the comments below!
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"We do not believe that the applicant would be a competitive participant."

Alpha Romeo and Haas? They sure didn't look like competitive participants either.
 
Did that 2 years ago.
Should have done it a lot sooner, in fact immediately at the time when DRS was introduced.
What triggered me most and made me cancel my subscription instantly was when I saw a photo of Domenicali happily and frantically shake the hand of Mohammed bin Salman (google why this might be a problem, at least to some).
Anyway, F1 has become so boring, I don't miss anything and rather go watch old races on YT...
I litterally lost all interest when DRS appeared.i didn't like the philosophy behind such a feature. I just felt, and still feel, DRS was just a cheap way to make the racing less boring. Instead of trying to fix the sport, using the brain and rethinking it. And the end current result is a bunch of atrocious uninspired big cars.

That rejection of Andretti and GM is imo the worst move which could have been done for this sport popularity and its competitive aspect. We don't know whether it would have been a successful team but, at least, it would have been another manufacturer entring the game.

A better argument would have been not accepting a new team before the big engines change, with new fuel, in 2026, which would led to double developpent for a newcomer, one becoming obsolete in 2 seasons. But that way it just looks like a "no, we don't want you in our sport"., especially because the argument of lack of competitiveness of a new comer can be brought at any time.

About Saudi Arabia, do sports have to go political? The same question for general entertainment? Is it right to forbid any entertainment to people who already live under hash conditions and hard political regimes? I won't answer myself as it is not the place to launch a philosophical and political debate. Let's consider it as an invitation to self reflexion.
 
FIA pushes 3 races per year in the US, but rejects a name as big as Andretti ... shameful.
3 races in the US, is that sport that popular in the US?

The reason is the current cartel of 10 teams doesn't want to split the money in 11. That's the only reason. Of course, you could also read the statement that explains why Andretti was rejected, but it's total b.s.
If that is the case I would suggest a degradation system for the worst performing team. So even in the lower regions of the rankings its getting exciting.
 
What an utter crap. Their only intress is to get more and more those absolutely **** street circuits one after another to the calendar Where is real MOTORSPORT people in F1 huh?! Not so much left..
 
I'll bring my unwanted American perspective into this...

Obviously I am not personally involved with the team, but yet I still feel cheated. Like my fandom and viewership is being taken advantage of while F1 says "we don't ACTUALLY care about you".

Andretti and GM have done everything right and more to get accepted onto the grid. And yet, they not only get rejected, but FOM has the gall to INSULT the Andretti name?! It truly feels like they are trying their hardest to play into the snobby, "I'm above you dumb Americans" European stereotype. Not to state the obvious, but that is not a good recipe for growth.

It truly is difficult for me to stay interested in F1 now. I love racing and F1 has its place on the pedestal of world motorsports for sure. But the lackluster racing, the majority of the races starting at 6 or 7 AM in my time zone, the dumb officiating, the fetish for street circuits, and now this Andretti saga makes it really feel like it's not worth investing my time and passion into this sport.
I lost interest in F1 years back they keep on saying they want to crack the US marked but instead slap down one of the greatest racing family names in the History of Motor Sport.
as some one who grew up in the late 60's and lived through the formative years of F1 I Knew the name Andretti from the time he drove for JPS Lotus and was the World Champion.
This real show F1 up for what it as been for a long time a bunch of greedy sharks enjoying their feeding frenzy for the pot of gold that they are unwilling to share with anyone outside of their nice elite club.
with out a big U.S name with a lot of History behind it F1 will never ever fully crack the U,S Motorsports market. After this they deserve to fail.
 
Caddie has done well in the prototype series. The corvettes have done well in IMSA. Old Man Andretti won in every type of race car. Mike has done well running teams. Admitting the team seems like it would help F1 grow its strength on this side of the pond - the Andretti name would only add to the F1's fan base. Competitive? The only question recently is the margin of victory for Max and Red Bull. What competition?
 

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