2012 Formula One European Grand Prix

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Who wins the F1 Grand Prix of Europe?

  1. Sebastian Vettel

    16.5%
  2. Mark Webber

    2.8%
  3. Jenson Button

    5.7%
  4. Lewis Hamilton

    15.5%
  5. Fernando Alonso

    20.2%
  6. Felipe Massa

    2.8%
  7. Michael Schumacher

    14.7%
  8. Nico Rosberg

    0.5%
  9. Kimi Räikkönen

    10.1%
  10. Romain Grosjean

    9.0%
  11. Somebody else

    2.1%
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  1. The Track
    Circuit Name: Valencia Street Circuit
    Number of Laps: 57
    Circuit Length: 5.419 km
    Race Distance: 308.883 km
    Lap Record: 1:38.683 - T Glock
    (2009)​

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    Time Table

    Fri 22 June 2012
    Practice 1 10:00 - 11:30
    Practice 2 14:00 - 15:30

    Sat 23 June 2012
    Practice 3 11:00 - 12:00
    Qualifying 14:00

    Sun 24 June 2012
    Race 14:00 Race


    Teams & Drivers
    Red Bull
    Engines: Renault​
    1. Sebastian Vettel​
    2. Mark Webber​
    Mclaren
    Engines: Mercedes​
    3. Jenson Button​
    4. Lewis Hamilton​
    Ferrari
    Engines: Ferrari​
    5. Fernando Alonso​
    6. Felipe Massa​
    Mercedes
    Engines: Mercedes​
    7. Michael Schumacher​
    8. Nico Rosberg​
    Lotus
    Engines: Renault​
    9. Kimi Raikkonen​
    10. Romain Grosjean​
    Force India
    Engines: Mercedes​
    11. Paul di Resta​
    12. Nico Hulkenberg​
    Sauber
    Engines: Ferrari​
    14. Kamui Kobayashi​
    15. Sergio Perez​
    Toro Rosso
    Engines: Ferrari​
    16. Daniel Ricciardo​
    17. Jean-Eric Vergne​
    Williams
    Engines: Renault​
    18. Pastor Maldonado​
    19. Bruno Senna​
    Caterham
    Engines: Renault​
    20. Heikki Kovalainen​
    21. Vitaly Petrov​
    HRT
    Engines: Cosworth​
    22. Narain Karthikeyan​
    23. Pedro de la Rosa​
    Marussia
    Engines: Cosworth​
    24. Timo Glock​
    25. Charles Pic​
    2012 Standings
    2011 Onboard
    Fernando Alonso ( Ferrari )​
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  2. Wonder what they will do with the DRS Zones this year.
    As far as I remember they were set quite good last year.
  3. Kevin Cordice

    Kevin Cordice Licensed

    RB8 look really good at the Canada race so I think they have a chance, but a 2 stop is likely to be the best strategy, Bring on Europe
  4. RB8 will be the car to watch with high breaking zones but all top 5 teams have chances to win
  5. Markus Neumann

    Markus Neumann Licensed

    Given the track characteristics as well as expected high temperatures, the pecking order should be as following:

    Lotus > Red Bull > Ferrari > Mercedes > McLaren

    Lotus has good traction and does exceedingly well at high temperatures. If it is as warm as last year, I expect them to win. Same goes for RB, but not as extremely, so I think they might not be as fast as Lotus. Ferrari is an all-rounder. For Mercedes, it will simply be too hot, but at least the track suits their car. That's not the case for McLaren and considering how badly they were doing at Valencia last year, I expect them to suffer again.

    So, my predictions:

    1. Grosjean (o.O)
    2. Vettel
    3. Raikkonen

    Pole: Grosjean
    Fastest Lap: Raikkonen
    First DNF: Schumacher :thumbsdown:


    And as far as DRS is concerned: the second zone was useless last year because that straight starts with a fast corner where the dirty air from the car in front makes it impossible for the car behind to get sufficiently close. The first zone was a little bit too short. So I expect them to lengthen that and just remove the second one completely.
  6. May be Button and Massa shine here
  7. Fadel Sabbagh

    Fadel Sabbagh Licensed

    Marussia and Caterham for podium? if one stop strategy is working for Lotus-Sauber ...why shouldn't work with Mercedes! Is there a secret behind the tyres :ninja:
  8. Markus Neumann

    Markus Neumann Licensed

    I don't understand that one either. They are always so conservative with their strategies. What happened to the Ross Brawn of old? :(
  9. Fadel Sabbagh

    Fadel Sabbagh Licensed

    They made a big mistake when they told him to pit earlier, can't understand how they calculated and find that he should get a free way after this idiotic pitstop!
  10. Chris Preston

    Chris Preston Licensed

    Ill edit this for you:

    1) Raikkonen
    2) Alonso
    3) Vettel

    Pole: A toss up really, my money would be on Vettel or Hamilton
    Fastest Lap: Raikkonen
    First DNF: Grosjean ---> Even though Schumi is a good bet for a DNF unfortunately, it's highly unlikely he'll be the first. Normally his car messes up mid way through the race.

    I don't really know what to think about Valencia anymore. From what I've read in the last couple years this race is extremely boring, however since this track is kind of like Bahrain (hot, heavy breaking) I think we could see a different kind of race from something like Monaco or Montreal.

    It's hard to place Red Bull this weekend because while Vettel won the race in Bahrain he didn't really dominate it like he normally does when he wins and in Montreal even though he started on pole he couldn't keep it which is extremely rare for him. They're always a safe bet to do well, but Lotus should be right up there with them.

    Something that was said by the commentator on FOX (they actually said something true I couldn't believe it myself) was that Raikkonen always comes up flying in the first half of the race then seems to just be content where he is and not push for a better spot. In Bahrain that was kind of the case, he caught Vettel, tried once for the lead, then seemed content with second place. In Monaco he seemed to start well and then drop off near the end of the race. The tyre wear on the Lotus' seem to be reasonable so I don't know the reasoning for this unless he just gets bored lol.

    Mercedes... I don't even want to go through this but here I go: Nico seems to do relatively well in hotter conditions, but the question still stands, will their tyres be able to last and will their cars? I think Nico is a good bet for a underdog winner, but everything will have to fall into place with him. The first being he MUST qualify on the front row. Micheal Schumacher... where to begin. I swear to god the FIA must be paying Mercedes to f**k up his car week after week to get back at him because the fact it's only his car that seems to be breaking raises an eye. I'd really like to see him actually qualify top 5 and not have anything to go wrong so we can see his true potential this year.
  11. Markus Neumann

    Markus Neumann Licensed

    Yep, whether Grosjean wins or is the first DNF is a 50/50 thing, really. I just went with the former :p He seems to be a better qualifier than Raikkonen, which is fairly important on this track. So i just went with it, even though it's probably not that likely. He always has the capability to exceed the expectations, though. His lap times at the end of the Canadian Grand Prix, were pretty insane, considering that he had done only one stop.

    In Spain it was the exact opposite. He was fairly slow during the first half of the race and just couldn't keep up with Alonso and Maldonado, but if it had gone on for 5 more laps, he might very well have won it.
  12. Chris Preston

    Chris Preston Licensed

    True, that's going back a while though so I can't remember exactly, but did he pit for fresh tyres? If so it may have been the same case as Hamilton this week where he was just on very fresh tyres which can get you a couple seconds a lap advantage.
  13. His bottle of Vodka get's emptier during the race ;) But actually that should make especially him faster lol
  14. Hampus Andersson

    Hampus Andersson Licensed

    Qual
    Vettel
    Hamilton
    Alonso

    Race
    Hamilton
    Vettel
    Alonso
  15. Qual
    Vettel
    Hamilton
    Grosjean
    Race
    Vettel
    Alonso
    Kimi
  16. Xosé Estrada

    Xosé Estrada Licensed

    Q

    Hamilton
    Alonso
    Kimi

    R

    Alonso
    Hamilton
    Vettel

    I don't believe what I just wrote :D
  17. Omer Said

    Omer Said Weresloth Licensed

    Qual
    Webber
    Vettel
    Rosberg

    Race
    Vettel
    Rosberg
    Alonso
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  18. I think Hamilton will be in Podium but Vettel and Alonso to take win here more than any one in this track
  19. Tire Choice for Valencia :
    Option - Soft
    Prime - Medium
    So i guess it could be a 2 stop strategy and single stop could be possible but due to Long straights and Heavy breaking zones i guess it could be Hard for Drivers to do a single stop
    What do you think guys
  20. Michael Brown

    Michael Brown Licensed

    Does anyone else see the resemblance between this track and Imola? Lots of straights, heavy braking, and hard to pass.
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